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Old 06-14-2016, 06:27 PM
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I might have to make my Humans with Dinosaurs story a series but I don't mind. Currently a pet room has been unlocked as a reward for completing the tour.

The aliens that take care of the pets in this room give each human all the supplies they need for their pet(For example a person wanting a bearded dragon would get a different set of supplies for baby vs adult and ideally both the baby and adult sets). This includes food for all pets, tanks for aquatic pets and herps(reptiles and amphibians), and free vet care. There are the general vets that will tell someone if their pet is healthy or not. These will specify the vet specialists depending on the type of pet. These specialists deal with specific groups.

Anyway, I know the secondary sleeping quarters will be unlocked as a reward for completing survival training but that isn't the question. This is just to give you an idea of how far in the story I am(not even close to the planet that has dinosaurs).

What I am really asking is if domestication of dinosaurs is possible?

A few reptiles have essentially been domesticated. Wild bearded dragons would bite people and blacken their beards in defense. Captive bred bearded dragons don't blacken their beards due to presence of people, just to other bearded dragons. And they don't bite either. They will chill with you while watching a movie like a cat might. And this is just over decades.

Dinosaur domestication is kind of important for my story. What people learn from this, they might be able to apply to other reptiles so that at some point people can ride big crocodiles to get to somewhere on the other side of the water or be carried by pterosaurs to get somewhere fast.

Different types of dinosaurs would be domesticated for different purposes.

Finding food - practically any dinosaur could do this but preferably an omnivore

Defense - Ceratopsians would be good for this

Transport - Any big herbivore(other than ankylosaurs and stegosaurs) would be good as would some theropods such as utahraptor.

Getting rocks out of the way - A strong bipedal dinosaur would be good.

Finding minerals - A small theropod would be good.

Helping humans out in other ways - An intelligent dinosaur such as Troodon would be good for this.

So is this possible?

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Possible, but the training methods would not be the same ones that one uses for more intelligent animals. Methods would be a lot more technical, given that that the dinosaurs did not have the same brain structure (inferior and ventromedial frontal gyrus) that allows for empathy in mammals.
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Who says that dinosaurs weren't as intelligent? There are different kinds of intelligence. We humans have knowledge intelligence but dolphins have lingual intelligence(very complex language that they all understand). Dinosaurs, especially Troodontids(dinosaurs most closely related to troodon) might have been very intelligent, just not in the same type of intelligence as us.
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Brain structure. Dolphins are mammals; mammals evolved brain structures which, by the usual definition of intelligence as ability to process data (with measurement techniques from information science), give mammals greater intelligence than reptiles. This is not to say dinosaurs were not intelligent. They were able to survive as a collection of species for millions of years, and that required quite a bit of intelligence. From what we know of the reptilian brain, their brains would have allowed them to be trained, with the proper methods, although it would not be as easy as training a dog. By the way, the question whether dolphins have a language is not one with an obvious answer, given the ambiguity of the word "language". A good discussion can be found, for example, at http://www.dolphincommunicationproje...lphin-language But that is getting off-topic.
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The Flinstones did it. They not only had dinosaurs as pets, they were trained to perform various tasks around the house and in the workplace. The only problem I'm aware of is the dinosaurs sometimes complained or made sarcastic remarks about it.

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I guess you could 'domesticate' anything' great white sharks come very close to the cage on the tourist attractions - but it may be because they are fed sort of like Pavlov's salivating dog.

however due to the size of the dino and the size of their 'droppings' I don't think it's a good idea - but this is fiction so, go for it.


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Also consider evolution. If your dinosaur species have been for millions of years then they could be considerably different than anything indicated in our fossil records. Possibly start with the planet/location itself to determine what type of dinosaurs could live in the region. then decide which of those would be domesticated.
You could always make dinosaur versions of animals around today. For example: a dinosaur version of an ox for farm work or small chicken sized ones to provide eggs.
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Edgar Rice Burroughs 'John Carter of Mars' books included characters that were portrayed as intelligent reptilians.
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Edgar Rice Burroughs 'John Carter of Mars' books included characters that were portrayed as intelligent reptilians.
Theoretically, a species could evolve to a much greater intelligence and stay the same species, but practically, there is a limit. We, for example, could not produce viable offspring of both genders with the Neanderthals; we are a separate species. So, you could get the evolution of an intelligent creature that had many aspects of dinosaurs, but would no longer be a dinosaur.
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In fiction, of course its possible.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dinotopia
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Theoretically, a species could evolve to a much greater intelligence and stay the same species, but practically, there is a limit. We, for example, could not produce viable offspring of both genders with the Neanderthals; we are a separate species. So, you could get the evolution of an intelligent creature that had many aspects of dinosaurs, but would no longer be a dinosaur.
Exactly. For dinosaurs to become intelligent they need to evolve into something other than what they are: their altered genotype will no longer allow their categorisation within the species they began as.

Nomadreid: it's interesting you mentioned the Neanderthals earlier and the semi-potential for homo-sapiens-sapiens to interbreed with them. I read recently that non-African humans still retain between 2 and 4 percent Neanderthal DNA. However, the sequences were not the same in every person tested, and from the cross-section the scientists had tested there was an aggregate of 20% Neanderthal DNA.

It made me wonder whether the entire Neanderthal DNA might be represented within a wider cross-section of human genetics, and whether some form of voluntary (let's not go near eugenics) selective breeding might be able to produce the first genotypic, though not phenotypic, Neanderthal to walk the earth in many millennia.
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we might not have to do a breeding program, we might just do some gene splicing and create a entire genome. you know a piece here and a piece there all add up to one Neanderthal ?????


I also remember some scientist putting forth the theory that a velociraptor evolved into a chicken.


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The Flinstones did it. They not only had dinosaurs as pets, they were trained to perform various tasks around the house and in the workplace. The only problem I'm aware of is the dinosaurs sometimes complained or made sarcastic remarks about it.
I love it. Go Fred & Wilma!
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They make good motor fuel, though it takes a while.
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Fiction doesn't rely on facts, especially fantasy fiction. Just assert anything you want, and once you do, make it seem logical. You've already done this by putting humans in the story with diansours. They never were. So you're already in a made up world.

So, do they purr and bark? wrc
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I might have to make my Humans with Dinosaurs story a series but I don't mind. Currently a pet room has been unlocked as a reward for completing the tour.

The aliens that take care of the pets in this room give each human all the supplies they need for their pet(For example a person wanting a bearded dragon would get a different set of supplies for baby vs adult and ideally both the baby and adult sets). This includes food for all pets, tanks for aquatic pets and herps(reptiles and amphibians), and free vet care. There are the general vets that will tell someone if their pet is healthy or not. These will specify the vet specialists depending on the type of pet. These specialists deal with specific groups.

Anyway, I know the secondary sleeping quarters will be unlocked as a reward for completing survival training but that isn't the question. This is just to give you an idea of how far in the story I am(not even close to the planet that has dinosaurs).

What I am really asking is if domestication of dinosaurs is possible?

A few reptiles have essentially been domesticated. Wild bearded dragons would bite people and blacken their beards in defense. Captive bred bearded dragons don't blacken their beards due to presence of people, just to other bearded dragons. And they don't bite either. They will chill with you while watching a movie like a cat might. And this is just over decades.

Dinosaur domestication is kind of important for my story. What people learn from this, they might be able to apply to other reptiles so that at some point people can ride big crocodiles to get to somewhere on the other side of the water or be carried by pterosaurs to get somewhere fast.

Different types of dinosaurs would be domesticated for different purposes.

Finding food - practically any dinosaur could do this but preferably an omnivore

Defense - Ceratopsians would be good for this

Transport - Any big herbivore(other than ankylosaurs and stegosaurs) would be good as would some theropods such as utahraptor.

Getting rocks out of the way - A strong bipedal dinosaur would be good.

Finding minerals - A small theropod would be good.

Helping humans out in other ways - An intelligent dinosaur such as Troodon would be good for this.

So is this possible?
Birds are dinosaurs and various types have been domesticated, chickens, ducks, geese, etc
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