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Old 10-27-2016, 07:41 PM
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Having noted a dramatic increase in this condition (esp. on internet sites - e.g. Writer’s Beat), it seems important to ensure that it is understood.
High-Horse Syndrom is a condition in which the patient presents the following symptoms:

- hostility and unreasoning anger inspired by paranoid defensiveness.
- delusions of: adequacy, importance and superior intelligence
- behavior is characterized by:

- hateful personal attacks on anyone who even seems to disagree with them.
- a limited world view based on their own small theater of existence.
- self-righteousness leading to condescension and nasty behavior. This behavior is particularly pronounced when they are challenged or when they are unsure of what they are saying.

While this condition is typically displayed by those of the liberal political persuasion(esp. self-righteousness and a lack of personal social responsibility), it is often demonstrated by extreme conservatives. As it has been stated elsewhere - if left and right are represented on a vertical circle as a continuum then the extremes of both meet at the bottom in the middle.

I will end this very brief description of this condition with a warning as there is no known treatment. If you encounter individuals who have this problem, ignore them if possible, avoid arguments with them - they love it and it encourages further bad behavior. Just hold to your values, move away from them and go on with your life.


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Hi Tor. How be thee? I laughed a few times and really enjoyed reading your post, which follows this post.

I'm not sure, but I guess I some may see me as qualifying as for the ones you're warning against. I suspect it's because I have made a life time ambition to spread critical thinking skills as much as I can. It's also true that I have no respect for writers/thinkers trapped in childhood thinking.

But I try my damnest not to demonize them and try to stick to the ideas. After all, demonizing itself is rather childish.
I believe the unexamined mind is the same as not having one since it's based on the programming during childhood.

We would be rid of religion if we outlawed Sunday School. Probably in 4 generations. Anyway, thanks for taking the time writing your post and sharing. wrc

Originally Posted by Tor View Post

Having noted a dramatic increase in this condition (esp. on internet sites - e.g. Writer’s Beat), it seems important to ensure that it is understood.
High-Horse Syndrom is a condition in which the patient presents the following symptoms:

- hostility and unreasoning anger inspired by paranoid defensiveness.
- delusions of: adequacy, importance and superior intelligence
- behavior is characterized by:

- hateful personal attacks on anyone who even seems to disagree with them.
- a limited world view based on their own small theater of existence.
- self-righteousness leading to condescension and nasty behavior. This behavior is particularly pronounced when they are challenged or when they are unsure of what they are saying.

While this condition is typically displayed by those of the liberal political persuasion(esp. self-righteousness and a lack of personal social responsibility), it is often demonstrated by extreme conservatives. As it has been stated elsewhere - if left and right are represented on a vertical circle as a continuum then the extremes of both meet at the bottom in the middle.

I will end this very brief description of this condition with a warning as there is no known treatment. If you encounter individuals who have this problem, ignore them if possible, avoid arguments with them - they love it and it encourages further bad behavior. Just hold to your values, move away from them and go on with your life.

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Old 10-28-2016, 09:53 AM
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Childhood thinkers are vibrant and free spirited. These individuals aren't stale and their lively writing prevents others from becoming old farted thinkers.
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Childhood thinkers are vibrant and free spirited. These individuals aren't stale and their lively writing prevents others from becoming old farted thinkers.
Wow, Cityboy. Every now and then, you make my day. lol So, yes, I am old. I don't know how old you are but you seem like a teenager to me. I hope you can hang around long enough to get old and perhaps you'll get some wisdom. BTW, I do fart sometimes. I suppose you're going to claim you don't. lol wrc
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Wow, Cityboy. Every now and then, you make my day. lol So, yes, I am old. I don't know how old you are but you seem like a teenager to me. I hope you can hang around long enough to get old and perhaps you'll get some wisdom. BTW, I do fart sometimes. I suppose you're going to claim you don't. lol wrc
Hang around long enough? I'm not making plans to go any place, I'll be hanging around for an eternity. Wisdom is not to be associated with aging. Another mistake you're making.
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Old 10-28-2016, 02:38 PM
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Hang around long enough? I'm not making plans to go any place, I'll be hanging around for an eternity. Wisdom is not to be associated with aging. Another mistake you're making.
I'm still laughing. So far you've attempted to change the definitioins of 'facts' and 'truth'. Now your using your logic of confusion to go after wisdom. I don't mind having a discussion on wisdom.

I looked up the word. Here it is:

((wis·dom
noun
the quality of having experience, knowledge, and good judgment; the quality of being wise.
synonyms: sagacity, intelligence, sense, common sense, shrewdness, astuteness, smartness, judiciousness, judgment, prudence, circumspection;

the soundness of an action or decision with regard to the application of experience, knowledge, and good judgment))

That definition captures how I use the word. And I agree that you don't have to be old to have wisdom. What's your definition? wrc
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Originally Posted by wrc View Post
I'm still laughing. So far you've attempted to change the definitioins of 'facts' and 'truth'. Now your using your logic of confusion to go after wisdom. I don't mind having a discussion on wisdom.

I looked up the word. Here it is:

((wis·dom
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the quality of having experience, knowledge, and good judgment; the quality of being wise.
synonyms: sagacity, intelligence, sense, common sense, shrewdness, astuteness, smartness, judiciousness, judgment, prudence, circumspection;

the soundness of an action or decision with regard to the application of experience, knowledge, and good judgment))

That definition captures how I use the word. And I agree that you don't have to be old to have wisdom. What's your definition? wrc
You're really lost. You had to resort to a dictionary. In yesteryear's world, people barely made it to 4o. There were those in the 20s who were wise beyond their ages. Even today the young are wise. Look at Writersbeat own brianpatrick who was only nine when he knew God didn't exist. How wise is that? A nine year old knowing one of mankind's great mysteries. Does this explanation help at all? I hope it does.

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You're really lost. You had to resort to a dictionary. In yesteryear's world, people barely made it to 4o. There were those in the 20s who were wise beyond their ages. And look at Writersbeat own brianpatrick who was only nine when he knew God didn't exist. How wise is that? Does this explanation help at all? I hope it does.


Yes, but I was precocious. Bill is just a mere mortal like you. Now that I'm an adult I am a god. So... I guess there really is a god after all. It's like a damn circle or a snake eating its tail. Don't ask; you wouldn't understand.
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Originally Posted by Cityboy View Post
You're really lost. You had to resort to a dictionary. In yesteryear's world, people barely made it to 4o. There were those in the 20s who were wise beyond their ages. Even today the young are wise. Look at Writersbeat own brianpatrick who was only nine when he knew God didn't exist. How wise is that? A nine year old knowing one of mankind's great mysteries. Does this explanation help at all? I hope it does.
I'm still laughing but getting a little tired of your logic of confusion. No wonder you're so difficult to understand. You have no frame of reference for your ideas. The rest of the world agrees on a definition on all the words but Cityboy makes his up. You imply that I 'resorted' to a dictionary and that it showed a weakness on my part.

I hate to tell you this but if you want to be understood you have to understand what a word means when you use it. It just occured to me that perhaps you don't want to be understood. Maybe your posts are really surreal satires on clarity. If true, that's a really weird game you're playing.

Most children learn early on that death is out there waiting for them. That's why they are so susceptible to the bullshit in Sunday School. The mind in development has no defenses against brainwashing techinuqes.

I developed my bullshit detector early on and knew many truths about the same age of brianpatrick when he realized that god wasn't real.

If you answer my post may I suggest you look up the meanings of your core words so you can make a more defensible position? Don't think of it as 'resorting' to a reference book. Think of it as acquiring knowledge. wrc
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Old 10-28-2016, 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by brianpatrick View Post
Yes, but I was precocious. Bill is just a mere mortal like you. Now that I'm an adult I am a god. So... I guess there really is a god after all. It's like a damn circle or a snake eating its tail. Don't ask; you wouldn't understand.
You provide good laughs. I'm so happy we can coexist.
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Originally Posted by wrc View Post
I'm still laughing but getting a little tired of your logic of confusion. No wonder you're so difficult to understand. You have no frame of reference for your ideas. The rest of the world agrees on a definition on all the words but Cityboy makes his up. You imply that I 'resorted' to a dictionary and that it showed a weakness on my part.

I hate to tell you this but if you want to be understood you have to understand what a word means when you use it. It just occured to me that perhaps you don't want to be understood. Maybe your posts are really surreal satires on clarity. If true, that's a really weird game you're playing.

Most children learn early on that death is out there waiting for them. That's why they are so susceptible to the bullshit in Sunday School. The mind in development has no defenses against brainwashing techinuqes.

I developed my bullshit detector early on and knew many truths about the same age of brianpatrick when he realized that god wasn't real.

If you answer my post may I suggest you look up the meanings of your core words so you can make a more defensible position? Don't think of it as 'resorting' to a reference book. Think of it as acquiring knowledge. wrc
I'm a little past the "Just Say No" stage. But If that's where you feel comfortable, fine. You could stay stuck there. Now I'll give you some free advice and save you some change. If you own a flashlight, don't purchase batteries because where you're going you won't be needing a flashlight. There is plenty of light ... bright light.


Bullshit detector ... I'll bet it fiercely vibrates when you approach it or hold it.

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how many hands does a horse have to be to be a high horse?

To midgets and hobitts, a Shetland Pony is a high horse.

And then figuratively, to a man of my stature a Percheron or Belgian Dray is just a pony. To get on my high horse I would need a pachyderm. Life has it's challenges at all levels and I accept that I must bear a heavier cross and a larger burden. I take heart in the fact that it's never Sisyphean, because there are not boulders that large....
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I'm a little past the "Just Say No" stage. But If that's where you feel comfortable, fine. You could stay stuck there. Now I'll give you some free advice and save you some change. If you own a flashlight, don't purchase batteries because where you're going you won't be needing a flashlight. There is plenty of light ... bright light.


Bullshit detector ... I'll bet it fiercely vibrates when you approach it or hold it.
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how many hands does a horse have to be to be a high horse?

To midgets and hobitts, a Shetland Pony is a high horse.

And then figuratively, to a man of my stature a Percheron or Belgian Dray is just a pony. To get on my high horse I would need a pachyderm. Life has it's challenges at all levels and I accept that I must bear a heavier cross and a larger burden. I take heart in the fact that it's never Sisyphean, because there are not boulders that large....
Mohican. Has Cityboy been coaching you? I've read your post 3 times and can't understand what your getting at. Maybe the logic of confusion is spreading. wrc
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Mohican. Has Cityboy been coaching you? I've read your post 3 times and can't understand what your getting at. Maybe the logic of confusion is spreading. wrc

You can't see past your own hand and accuse someone else as having poor vision. What does Tor's post have to do with Sunday school and religion? And you're delusional if you believe that removing religion will produce world peace or change human behavior (The Siberian horrors). You remind me of a chap who couldn't smell smoke even if his clothes were on fire.

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For their own good, some people should just not go online.
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You can't see past your own hand and accuse someone else as having poor vision. What does Tor's post have to do with Sunday school and religion? And you're delusional if you believe that removing religion will produce world peace or change human behavior (The Siberian horrors). You remind me of a chap who couldn't smell smoke even if his clothes were on fire.
Hi Cityboy. Actually I believe religion is not the only problem.

I think the problem is that our offspring are not protected well enough by our culture to avoid becoming victims to every yahoo huckster running around with a make believe story.

Consider also Predator Capitalism, advertising, corporate media and the Industial Military Complex.

Jesus! I must be nuts thinking I could enlighten a true believer! Maybe I need to join a 12 step program for hopeful thinkers. I'm not sure that would even work since they want me to bow to a higher power. Hell's bells! wrc
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For their own good, some people should just not go online.
Meyer. What in the world are you saying? wrc
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That's one of those "if you have to ask..." questions.

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Hi Cityboy. Actually I believe religion is not the only problem.

I think the problem is that our offspring are not protected well enough by our culture to avoid becoming victims to every yahoo huckster running around with a make believe story.

Consider also Predator Capitalism, advertising, corporate media and the Industial Military Complex.

Jesus! I must be nuts thinking I could enlighten a true believer! Maybe I need to join a 12 step program for hopeful thinkers. I'm not sure that would even work since they want me to bow to a higher power. Hell's bells! wrc
The thing about "problems" is viewpoint is all that really matters. To the shot deer lying lifeless in the back of a pickup, man is the problem-- meaning "you" and "me." What you are engaged in at the moment without conscious awareness is finger-pointing, or more bluntly the "blame game." Human beings need to take responsibility for erroneous actions--in responsibility is where the real solutions lie, not in blame. Blame is merely the cat chasing its tail. Some people need to take a breather to realize there is no gain for themselves or others going in circles.


For the military complex, you might as well "blame" the right people--the Egyptian pharaohs, the Persian rulers, the Greeks, the Romans--these dudes had incredible armies; they started the game. XXX



I didn't learn this stuff when I was nine. It took a while. At nine, I learned to cheat in cards.

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wrc is on the right track, Cityboy.

Our children are taught in school that government is functional and benevolent. (Not coincidentally in schools run by the government.) And they aren't taught to question or think critically.

They're indoctrinated by the media and culture to believe materialism is good and essential.

And the industrial-military is about the alliance between the military and the defense industry and initiating military conflicts for profit. No, it's not new, but it's certainly something that goes on beneath the radar while gullible people focus on our brave military and how they supposedly fight for our freedoms.

These are things that are actually going on in the real world and anyone who is paying attention would know they are all detrimental and the root cause of some of societies biggest problems.

The only possible way to counter them (and it's a long shot) is by making people aware; which you have somehow confused with finger pointing or playing some kind of blame game.

I suppose that's just peachy; if you are satisfied with how things are going...

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Anybody "could" be right. I stopped going to school regularly after the fourth grade. I just didn't like being "saddled," but when I did show up in the classroom I had nothing against my teachers. Wrc will find fault with anything ... even monks in isolation far from the brain washing techniques imposed on the masses by the greedy, the powerful, and the evil. If he doesn't like the way things are, I'm sure he could find a region suited for his likes. You cannot get anything done blaming others. He makes a living from blaming others. Some places he would lose his head for bitching. He should realize that. He should also realize that perfection is off limits on this plane.
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Gullible people ... grabbing a rifle when the enemy is at your doorstep. Does it get any more gullible than that? The throne will always be filled. That'a a guarantee. And sometimes those with their butts on it are the most devious people imaginable. They will bury you before you have the luxury of complaining.

Aware? You need H.G. Wells. What you call awareness others refer to as love. Love ends the bullshit. The French were made aware of King Louie. The Russians were made aware of the Czar. Has the awareness improved the situation? The masses are still screwed. Atheists have this problem understanding the depth of God's. They keep depending on the human brain to save mankind. That cannot be done. Impossible ... has failed for thousands of years now. Only unconditional love... God's love channeled into man's heart...can pull mankind from the muck he's stuck in.

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As I type, there are men using children as human shields. There are men butchering women and children. There are men who would delight in killing your wife, your children, and you. And the only thing preventing this atrocity from taking place is other men with weapons. Welcome to the world.
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Some folks make a habit of telling half-truths to push their own agendas. Consider this story about a hippie who bitched about America dropping the two bombs in the second world war. "Truman is a no good this, a no good that," this hippie almost screamed at me. "America is this, America is that," he continued. I didn't know what to say. The guy seemed intelligent and I didn't know much about WW II. Years later, however, I discovered about the atrocities the Japanese committed against the Chinese. Millions of Chinese were murdered. Chinese men were led into fields where Japanese officers practiced with their swords by chopping off the heads of these pitiful Chinese peasants. And when I learned about these horrors, my mind went back to the day in the park when this dumbass hippie screamed off his mouth about how evil Truman and the Americans were, but never mentioned a word about the Chinese victims ... the millions of them.


One last mention: If I didn't like a country or its system, I would leave it if it were possible. I wouldn't have my house on that land, I wouldn't eat its food, and I wouldn't use or spend its currency. Doing any would only make a hypocrite of me.

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Love and awareness aren't the same thing, and they aren't mutually exclusive.

You can love your enemy AND be aware of the the things that are harmful to us all, like rampant consumerism and a for-profit military.

Unfortunately, those forces don't operate on the basis of love. The only way to moderate them is by making people aware that they're being bamboozled on a mass scale. Hard to believe that anyone who truly cares about the wellbeing of his fellow man would take issue with that.

And if you want to throw up your hands in defeat by citing the failures of the past, be my guest. Some of us aren't willing to give up quite that easily.
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You guys earn a living blabbering half-truths. If you want to speak about a rock, talk about the top as well as the bottom. Just thought I'd make you aware of it.

Now that's gullible. How are you going to love your enemy while he's holding your head in his hand? But, I guess butchery doesn't count as evil, or should I say its not as wicked as Capitalism is. I know where your victory is leading ... more suppression. As I already said, only a hypocrite would stay in a place he doesn't like, if he has the resources to leave.

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You need to be chastising some of your dumb buddies who believe men and women who join the military are fools. Those "fools" are currently keeping your wife, children, and you safe.
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Don't know why I bothered. You can't track a line of thought in a conversation or argument.

When you come up against an opposing thought, you fly off in all directions or fall back on your list of tired and beside the point arguments.

I think I'll follow the advice of a fellow member and not bother with you until you say something intelligent.

I'm not going to hold my breath.
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Don't know why I bothered. You can't track a line of thought in a conversation or argument.

When you come up against an opposing thought, you fly off in all directions or fall back on your list of tired and beside the point arguments.

I think I'll follow the advice of a fellow member and not bother with you until you say something intelligent.

I'm not going to hold my breath.
Dude, you're not smart ... perhaps you're read more books than I have, but get off your high horse because you're nowhere near brilliant. You cannot save the world. Man's never-ending desire for power and riches has made this a cruel world. Why do you think each nation has an army, a police force? And you aren't taking anyone in a new direction with your thoughts--they have been tried and haven't produced fruit for all man to enjoy.

I know the name of Jesus makes many of you cringe. But Christ had this place down pat. Consider:

I have given them your word, and the world has hated them because they are not of the world, just as I am not of the world. I do not ask that you take them out of the world, but that you keep them from the evil one. They are not of the world, just as I am not of the world. Sanctify them in the truth; your word is truth. As you sent me into the world, so I have sent them into the world. And for their sake I consecrate myself, that they also may be sanctified in truth.

I don't mean to be harsh with you, but you need to open your eyes. This stuff is elementary. Why are so many of you afraid to examine what lies beneath the rock? Though you want to be prophets of Truth, you all are really hiding half of it. Self-examination necessary. Do yourself a favor.

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