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Old 12-07-2017, 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Myers View Post
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Honestly -- I set out to do no less than the best cover of the song I could possibly do -- to pay homage to the coolest parts of the origanal Peter Green version -- and then somehow expand on it without fucking it up.

I also went all out on recording double tracks on all the rhythm guitar -- so this was a good exercise for me.

Oh -- and the "cowbell" is actually a coffee mug and a steak knife handle -- I need to redo that.

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You don’t have a real cowbell?!

What kind of musician are you?

Say... you’re not one of those communis’ss are you?


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Heh.

Had a nice handmade case of percussion stuff I bought from the school where my wife taught when it went under. It mysteriously vanished from a party I played at recently -- along with my harmonicas and a bunch cables. Oh well again.
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Originally Posted by Myers View Post
Here's my cover of "Oh Well" by Fleetwood Mac.

No, the world does not need another cover of this song, but oh well.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=12r...VWD9Ng7yDmCNHK
Oooh!

When I've stopped panting I'm gonna need a cigarette.

So good. Sooo dirty.
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Nice work Myers. I'm not up on technicalities, I just know when I like the sound of something!
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Heh.

Had a nice handmade case of percussion stuff I bought from the school where my wife taught when it went under. It mysteriously vanished from a party I played at recently -- along with my harmonicas and a bunch cables. Oh well again.


I actually like the coffee cup better for your version. It sounds intentional.


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Old 12-09-2017, 05:07 PM
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Easy.

Johnny Cash, Hurt.
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Old 12-09-2017, 09:16 PM
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Johnny Cash, Hurt.


Fuck. I hate that song. Load of shit IMO. To be fair, I hated the original too.


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This is by far the best cover of "Hurt."

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JO_ViSjVfUI
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Fuck. I hate that song. Load of shit IMO. To be fair, I hated the original too.
I don't hate it -- but I'm not into it.

We went to the Johnny Cash museum in Nashville. I was expecting something pretty hokey, but it was really well done.

Anyway, the last exhibit was about "Hurt." They had the video looping etc. People were transfixed -- one lady was on the verge of tears.

I'm pretty sure Johnny did what he wanted, but the song and video seem a little exploitative to me and kind of gimmicky.

He (and Rick Ruben and whoever) did manage to take a heavy-handed emo anthem and wring something out of it. He puts it in a new context that gives it a little poignancy, for whatever that's worth.

I had this discussion with someone and he thought it was worthwhile because it brought a new generation to Cash's early work. That's possible, but I kind of doubt it. I think a lot of new fans are more interested in the persona and idea of Johnny Cash than the actual music. It's just cool to say you dig Johnny Cash.
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I actually do like Cash. In his day he was really unique, so many great songs. Those songs feel honest. Yeah, I know none of it is actually “honest” but that’s the art, right?

But Hurt Just feels dishonest and like pandering. Like a tired old man who was once a thriving giant, crawling to the finish line.

That whole record felt like he was pushed to perform. Reminds me of a once wild silverback gorilla locked in a zoo cage so long that he doesn’t fight it anymore.


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Well, I can see that. Like I said, it feels a little exploitative.

Beyond that, I'm not going to presume to know what Johnny Cash was thinking or what was motivating him to make those recordings.
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Thanks for this. She has a perfect studio voice. “Smells like teen spirit” is also brilliant.


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Old 12-19-2017, 04:26 AM
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Thanks for this. She has a perfect studio voice. “Smells like teen spirit” is also brilliant.


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Good singer. I was half expecting that phony "indy girl" voice you hear so often on YouTube...
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Good singer. I was half expecting that phony "indy girl" voice you hear so often on YouTube...


Yeah, great studio singer. I looked to find some live stuff but couldn’t. I’d like to see how she translates live. Purely for research and personal edification.


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Old 12-19-2017, 04:09 PM
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Yeah -- it's the opposite these days -- for us old timers.

You used to have cut your chops live -- the learn how to temper things for the studio.

I don't hear anything that says she couldn't perform well live -- and she'll have to if she wants to get anywhere. That's where the money is now.
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There are definitely studio singers and live singers and a few that can do both.

I’ve always been a live singer. Can’t tame the cannon to fit in that small studio booth.

My sister is good at both. I’ve always admired her ability that way.


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Old 12-19-2017, 05:20 PM
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Well -- then as now -- perhaps with differing degrees of importance, you still have to do both -- at least completely.
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Well -- then as now -- perhaps with differing degrees of importance, you still have to do both -- at least completely.


I think either/or can still make a good living in the margins. Ad revenue, or live show revenue. Just depends on how big you want to get.

Getting famous is still astronomically difficult and you need a lot of talent and luck. But I know plenty of musicians making ends meet you’ll never hear of.


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brian wrote: I actually do like Cash. In his day he was really unique, so many great songs. Those songs feel honest. Yeah, I know none of it is actually “honest” but that’s the art, right?

But Hurt Just feels dishonest and like pandering. Like a tired old man who was once a thriving giant, crawling to the finish line.

That whole record felt like he was pushed to perform. Reminds me of a once wild silverback gorilla locked in a zoo cage so long that he doesn’t fight it anymore.
I had heard at the time, and read someplace later that Cash was in failing mental Health at that time period. (stroke? Dementia?) and made a lot of covers.

I noticed that it's a take it or leave it - no one has any middle ground.

I really like His cover of Hurt and Bridge Over Covered Water and think WTF whenever I hear his cover of Depeche Mode's Personal Jesus.

He adds a lot of grit to Hurt, and his cover of Bridge Over Troubled water - with superb backup up vocals by Fiona Apple is very subdued, and not the belt it out mess that I hear many make of it.
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The First cut?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZvsxe1CD-c

The Writers version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQQPgECUORs

And what most people recognize (and IMO the best version)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHkBv-AtKDA
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