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what is the true meaning of
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have you come across it or experienced it?

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Not really.

The closest I have come to enlightenment is with what's in my signature (This too shall pass) and with my realisation that, without the intervention of any kind of god, we have all lived from the beginning of time and will continue so until the end of time. Everything is forever.
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your signature what does it mean?
I may have read it differently from you
where did you get it from?

interesting time is at the core of everything and not god.
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Translated it means "This too shall pass" - in other words, nothing lasts forever. It has been attributed to everyone from Solomon to Abraham Lincoln but originated with a medieval Persian poet, possibly Sanai.
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Hello Everyone, I am new to this forum. I think Enlightenment is not a right word. Right word would be awakening.. waking up.

I was awakened last month and asked my company to create an animated video to give people a visual idea of how it really feels like. I am not allowed to post links as I have not made 10 posts yet. Please search on YouTube for "What Is Enlightenment, Awakening of Ankit Saxena"

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Enlightenment vs. awakening? Sounds like you're splitting semantic and spiritual hairs.
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I don't know what you mean by enlightenment. I've had 'ah-ha' moments, but nothing I would consider 'enlightenment'. Spiritual enlightenment makes me think of someone devoted to spiritual focus, like a buddha or dalai lama.
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Originally Posted by Nacia View Post
what is the true meaning of
spiritual enlightenment??

have you come across it or experienced it?
When the light bulb goes on in reference to your walk with God.
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When the light bulb goes on in reference to your walk with God.
walk with god?
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Hello Everyone, I am new to this forum. I think Enlightenment is not a right word. Right word would be awakening.. waking up.

I was awakened last month and asked my company to create an animated video to give people a visual idea of how it really feels like. I am not allowed to post links as I have not made 10 posts yet. Please search on YouTube for "What Is Enlightenment, Awakening of Ankit Saxena"

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Originally Posted by Mohican When the light bulb goes on in reference to your walk with God.



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walk with god?
What part of this do you have a question about? I know that the "Enlightenment movement" that happened around the time the U.S. was founded, and when the French Revolution occurred sought enlightenment outside of Christianity but that isn't what works for me.
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What part of this do you have a question about? I know that the "Enlightenment movement" that happened around the time the U.S. was founded, and when the French Revolution occurred sought enlightenment outside of Christianity but that isn't what works for me.

The Christian God and doctrine gives us a path to walk without the necessity for 'enlightenment.' It revolves around faith. Which is just belief and adherence to the word with no proof. It's a fine way to live if one can pull it off. But most can't. Forgiveness for sin is mandatory in this system, because sin is inevitable. It's as good a system as any other religion.
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I went to the 1986 World Cup soccer final in Mexico City without a ticket and one minute before the game managed to buy one off a ticket tout. At the time getting to World Cup final was the biggest thing on earth for me and getting so close and missing out was a horrible prospect.

Anyway, I raced up the stairs and pushed through the crowd to get a sight of the field and it was like the heavens exploded with light. I went deaf for a moment, everything froze and I felt such a sense of euphoria I would have been happy to drop dead on the spot, my life's ambition fulfilled.

Ever since, I have wondered if my own 'religious experience' is what people mean when they say they have 'seen the light.' I'm an atheist, so it's nice to know the feeling is available to the rest of us
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Do you have an enlightenment story of your own, Nacia?
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Do you have an enlightenment story of your own, Nacia?

Oh God, I hope so!
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My limited understanding of spiritual enlightenment is that it is about self-awareness and some kind of understanding of life that allows you to move beyond the emotions connected to wanting material or worldly things.

If I'm on the right track, then I think that would be something to work toward, but I think it would be a very tall order for any human being to reach that state entirely.

I'm just trying to keep my priorities in line, live in the moment and do my best to stay "centered." Perhaps some sort of enlightenment or understanding will come from that eventually, but I can't say for sure. It seems to have a positive effect in the short-term when I consciously work on it.
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Do you have an enlightenment story of your own, Nacia?
no I have not
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Oh God, I hope so!
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The Christian God and doctrine gives us a path to walk without the necessity for 'enlightenment.' It revolves around faith. Which is just belief and adherence to the word with no proof. It's a fine way to live if one can pull it off. But most can't. Forgiveness for sin is mandatory in this system, because sin is inevitable. It's as good a system as any other religion.
I know! I'm ignoring my own advice and picking a fight I have no hope of winning. But I object vehemently to the overuse of religious forgiveness! God is supposed to be the father of all. Now while he may love all his children, what father in their right mind would say... 'Oh, you've lost my car-keys for the hundred and twenty-sixth time, think all you need to do is whine 'sorry, please forgive me.' And of course because I'm a benevolent man, I'll give you my car-keys again, knowing full well you're gonna lose them, again. Why not?' If a human did that he'd be labeled insane whereas God's supposed to be perfect!

I believe following blindly God's alleged messengers, the government,experts of varying expertise or for that matter anyone else destroys your connection with God whose strongest means of communication comes from one's little voice as Magnum called it that says when everyone around you is positively wrong and gives you the courage to oppose them all.

Due tplo my sci-fi writing I researched more than just Christianity while trying to come up with alien religions and discovered that the Buddha everyone in China is referring to when they say 'Buddha' after his ordeal which triggered his enlightenment, that anyone could become a Buddha and I personally agree. For since God is a God of love he would logically give all his children an equal playing field for to love us all equally he would not show favoritism!


At least... Not until after we mess up and start helping the Devil!

And the Devil lives in every religion!

I am through.
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God is supposed to be the father of all.Now while he may love all his children, what father in their right mind would say... 'Oh, you've lost my car-keys for the hundred and twenty-sixth time, think all you need to do is whine 'sorry, please forgive me.' And of course because I'm a benevolent man, I'll give you my car-keys again, knowing full well you're gonna lose them, again. Why not?' If a human did that he'd be labeled insane whereas God's supposed to be perfect!
not unless he is the mother of none
one has to be careful as to the overuse of the word children
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humans love god more then their own kind
and that is exactly where religion fails miserably
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The Christian God and doctrine gives us a path to walk without the necessity for 'enlightenment.' It revolves around faith. Which is just belief and adherence to the word with no proof. It's a fine way to live if one can pull it off. But most can't. Forgiveness for sin is mandatory in this system, because sin is inevitable. It's as good a system as any other religion.
There is much that is enlightening about Christianity, especially if you compare the Old to the New Testaments. Then find the similarities and the differences.
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Enlightenment is a choice of awareness made in moments and minutes.
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Enlightenment is a choice of awareness made in moments and minutes.
That's what I was driving at. I think it's a process.

Just a guess, but I think anyone who declares he's reached some state of enlightenment is probably full of it.

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Enlightenment is a choice of awareness made in moments and minutes.
a choice? I am not sure i follow.
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I think enlightenment, euphoria, a feeling of ecstasy, or whatever you want to call it, is a natural, though rare, spontaneous chemical reaction in the brain when you achieve a 'perfect storm' moment.

I'm not sure choice plays a part, though I'm told deep meditation can help and you will hit the jackpot if you find the Blue Pearl.

My 'soccer moment' described above certainly felt other-worldly or spiritual and very weird, so maybe the God of Soccer spoke to me.
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Enlightenment = euphoria? Couldn't disagree more.

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a choice? I am not sure i follow.
...it's a choice. Enlightenment is active engagement with the world. More often than not we slip into routines that daze us into dullness. We don't live in nor appreciate the world because our minds are closed. Opening your mind is an active choice...distancing yourself from the things that muddle and confuse your focus.

Enlightenment is not some high and mighty thing that descends on your like a muse. Much like writing, the only way to achieve it is to work on it, committing yourself each day to focus and eliminate the confusion.
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Enlightenment = euphoria? Couldn't disagree more.



...it's a choice. Enlightenment is active engagement with the world. More often than not we slip into routines that daze us into dullness. We don't live in nor appreciate the world because our minds are closed. Opening your mind is an active choice...distancing yourself from the things that muddle and confuse your focus.

Enlightenment is not some high and mighty thing that descends on your like a muse. Much like writing, the only way to achieve it is to work on it, committing yourself each day to focus and eliminate the confusion.
I'd have to agree. At least to some extent the adage question everything is in many ways enlightened realization. Or maybe I'm just full of it.

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Wikipedia defines spiritual enlightenment as

Enlightenment refers to the "full comprehension of a situation".
As such, there is no single enlightenment just as there is no single situation.

So my "ah-ha" moments count, I suppose. And I'd guess we all have those.
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The Dahli Llama says; The path to true enlightenment begins with warm Yak butter, a stray cat and two female Mongolian midgets.

In the year of the Rabbit during the seventh moon in its final phase one must squat naked in a bucket of warm Yak butter while holding the stray cat in ones lap as the two Mongolian midgets dance and chant around the seeker of enlightenment.

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