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Originally Posted by E. Zamora View Post
No, Bernie isn't a "commie." And I don't care where he went on his honeymoon.

He's pretty much an old school tax and spend democrat who loves big government social programs. Those aren't socialism, even though they sound kind of the same, which can be confusing to some. And they are not communism either. If he's a commie, then LBJ was a commie too.

And I know he's old, but I seriously doubt he's up for losing his million dollar beach-front home in the dictatorship of the proletariat...

nah, I think at heart Bernie is socialist. The fact that he owns extensive goods and property doesn't change that because socialism is for the little people and not the capital s Socialists in charge.

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When Socialist-Democrats seize control of power in the U.S.A (only a matter of time), they will join forces with Communist Russia and Communist China. Leaders of the U.S.A movement will act as a puppet government for the Communist regime. All this Russian hysteria is only a plot by Socialist-Democrats to confuse citizens and to eventually topple the U.S.A. Many of the socialists argue against capitalism and pretend to despise it, but the leaders have no qualms about being wealthy themselves. People of all nations around the globe will suffer, as the Russian people did under Stalin, when this dark day occurs.

Is Russian communist since the USSR split up and Russian is it's own separate entity?



I don't think they embrace a communist system anymore. In the first few years after the breakup of the USSR I'd would have to point at an almost anarcho-capitalist state in Russia. Perhaps it's now more of an oligarchy.
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Steve Cohen (D- Tennessee) calls for a military coup to remove tRUMP



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Pat Buchanan views this differently https://vdare.com/articles/patrick-j...ff-cold-war-ii
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Originally Posted by Mohican View Post
nah, I think at heart Bernie is socialist. The fact that he owns extensive goods and property doesn't change that because socialism is for the little people and not the capital s Socialists in charge.
He could be "at heart," but I don't thinks that's very relevant at all.

If you look at his personal platform and especially what his supporters think they want, it's social democracy, something more akin to the Scandinavian model, which is not in any way opposed to capitalism or market systems.

Socialism at it's core is about some kind of collective ownership of productive assets, an overturning of capitalism. I seriously doubt he's for that.

Conservatives love the word; they use it to associate pet liberal social programs with failed economic systems, like Venezuela and the Soviet Union. Some know the difference, some don't.

Some liberals think they want socialism, but they really want something more like social democracy.

So I think the real problem is a lot of conservatives and liberals alike just don't know what socialism is and I don't think there's much you can do about it.

P.S. And if history is a model, I'm guessing that if there really was some kind of socialist or communist revolution, Bernie would be out with the rest of elites and the bourgeoisie. Those people you're talking about, the socialists in charge, they come from outside the system. Bernie likely knows that.

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There's tRUMP Derangement Syndrome, and then there is that amplified by addlepated, bat shit crazy http://www.theamericanmirror.com/max...ou-just-do-it/
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There's tRUMP Derangement Syndrome, and then there is that amplified by addlepated, bat shit crazy http://www.theamericanmirror.com/max...ou-just-do-it/


Politicians like Waters are just playing to the radical fringe of their base in light of the coming elections. The radical fringe gets air time (free publicity) because they are “good tv.”
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May I say, that as a Brit, Trump provides me with entertainment. Watching the extreme polarisation of politics in the US is incredible (especially when most of the differences revolve around inconsequential nonsense).

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