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Old 01-02-2013, 04:01 AM
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A write off could be quite funny/interesting, perhaps peppered with character assassinations of your opponent.

But it seems we've successfully sucked the life out of that idea... and unfortunately prides could get hurt. I think if there is no real animosity between contestants it would be more viable, otherwise it seems it could be taken too seriously.

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I agree.

If this had been set up in an amiable way in the first place, rather than being based on a bitchfest in another thread where someone got pissy about a critique, this could have been a lot of fun.

Stick it in the Cafe where people can have a laugh with each other and a friendly roasting session without it resorting to a poorly disguised hatefest.

Not that Lorry's reminder about the WB competitions isn't also valid, it's just that's for serious writing attempts but this? This would be for the glorious fun of it.
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("...humour is like the sun, without it it is cold whereas too close and it burns..." ventured the goblin borrowing lord chesterfield's quote there, adding "...me, I'd rather that this didn't happen here in this section, that's all, and besides, how does anyone judge whether one author is better than another, where in the end of the day personal tastes prevail and I doubt that being liked by the majority, which is the same as saying one is liked by the common denominator much as mcdonalds and MTV are, is something that anyone wants now...", which was why the goblin had suggested this being done the more formal sections of this forums because only writers went there then)

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Old 01-02-2013, 06:23 AM
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Well, I was thinking more along the lines of writing on your feet. Like rap-offs but with writing instead, but I can see where you're coming from, Goblin.
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Old 01-02-2013, 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by CandraH View Post
Well, I was thinking more along the lines of writing on your feet. Like rap-offs but with writing instead, but I can see where you're coming from, Goblin.
So, socks off and pens at the ready? Sorry, couldn't resist. Weird sense of humor and all.

I think that being put on the spot might be a good way of holding a little writing contest.

And you know what? Could be done rather easily actually.

Something like:

1) Choose two people to go against each other in the thread, as an example.

2) Set a topic.

3) Set a time limit.

4) Competitors create an empty post (with one word or something in it) and need to have it edited with the proper one before time's up. No way of cheating on the time front then. Of course, this is assuming that people wouldn't just have a piece pre-written before creating the post. I would hope we could trust people on this though.

It would be a nice and friendly way of improving writing skills too, I reckon. Plus some people claim they can write good/decent first drafts (this includes me). Might be their chance to prove it. While, if they're full of mistakes, giving others a bit of amusement. All in good fun of course.
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what about having a microfiction competition? Less than 100 words story about a topic, photograph or object. Then a quick poll to see which is the best?
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Old 01-02-2013, 12:16 PM
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But what you actually mean is, "a poll to see which one most people vote for".
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Old 01-02-2013, 12:18 PM
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Yup. After all that is what selling books or stories is all about.
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Old 01-02-2013, 08:03 PM
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But what you actually mean is, "a poll to see which one most people vote for".
I think lins just afraid that she/he(?) would lose.
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("...but how would one know that one isn't just voting because one prefers one persona to the other, where one recognises straight off the writing style, and where the voter is in full view for retaliation if any..." mentioned the goblin meaning well but still against the idea, adding "...at the end of the day each post is a gift, for no one is forced to post now, moreover, there will always be those with tin hats who think think those with paper cups are cheap, just as there will be those with paper cups who think those with tin hats are crazy...", where somehow the presenter in the back to the goblin's mind hails the viewers to the words "and so, the winner of the paper cup award goes to none other that twedle dum himself..." as the clapping starts, continuing "while the winner of the tin hat award goes to our very own tweedle dee folks, didn't they both do well now", where the goblin just smiled, saying "...nah, do what you like then, but not here please is all I'm asking...")

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Burlesk agrees with the goblin.

Probably.
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Old 01-03-2013, 02:59 AM
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People voting for others because they like them is indeed a problem, amongst other things. So, can't really be likened to book sales in my view.

But could just forget polls and let users comment? I probably erred a bit in referring to people as competitors as well. At least if we ignore polls, it should help keep things friendly and less competitive.

Anyway think it's something that would be good if the mods agree, but I don't see the point in discussing it otherwise, unless users just run it in one thread so it doesn't clog things up.

And Anya, the rest of your thoughts were good, I think, outside of the poll. Not sure about the 100 word limit, but I don't have a better suggestion either.
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They have a contest over at Writingforums.com called Literary Maneuvers. It's based in a common theme with a limit of 600 words. There are about 5 volunteer judges who read each story and score it from 1-20. Judges don't just score it though -- you have write a little critique. The person with the highest accumulated score wins.

I've judged and participated, and if there's any kind of favoring of one "persona" over another or retaliation, I haven't seen it. Probably because you have to back up your scores with some rational, but also because the people who participate are more interested in having fun and doing a good job. I've seen a few people whine about scores -- but that doesn't go over very well. Otherwise, the idea of picking favorites or getting back at people through a little contest seems pretty silly -- it wouldn't occur to me in the first place.

The problem is, it takes a lot of work. Someone has to manage it, secure the volunteer judges, and compile and format the scores and critiques. Even judging takes a lot of time -- especially if you have several participants -- and I'm thinking there are usually 7 or 8, but it might be more. It's a lot of fun, but it isn't a small undertaking for the people who make it work.

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I've been involved in something like that, too, as a judge. And it's just like giving mini-crits, which take up a good amount of time if you have more than a handful of entries.
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I have bought books because I like the author. Hence why celebrity books and established authors sell so well. A debut author needs to have something that stands out. The basic poll voting is just easier in terms of man hours. Also the popularity thing can help boost the number of people critiquing in the fiction bit and helps moderate the way people treat each other.

My favourite sci-fi/fantasy writing site has 75 word challenges once a month and 300 word challenges every three months. Winner gets to pick the next topic and it is voted for - all mods need to do is open and close it. For a small site it gets 50+ entrants. The word counts and method mean it remains fun rather than becoming work for anyone. At 75 words does it matter if you get no votes? The site I mention I get excited with an honourable mention because the standard from regular competitors is so high.

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Stop arguing! Poll voting is better I think, anyway you're taking this way to seriously. This just supposed to be a fun little duel.
I'll get things started.

AnyaKimlun I challenge you to a writers duel.

The rules should you chose to accept my challenge: no more than 500 words, one week to write it, the story can not be a fan fiction of any type, the winner will be deside by poll when the week is up.

The genre will be a combo of two diferent genres, I will pick one half of the genre and you will pick the other half. The choise for my half is sci-fi (not sci-fi fantasy).

If you would like to add any rules state them in your reply.

Challenge accepted?
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I don't need a week. Make it 300 words and give me an hour - do you have a topic in mind ?

OK here I got this of the Seventh Sanctum site (genreless story generator and it gave me an idea)
Your Main Character is a(n): female

Your MC's main character trait is their: stubbornness.

The Main Symbol in the story is a(n): cobweb.

Theme point is: Greed.

Your story will start at/on/in: a Mountain.

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No arguing intended on my part. Apologies if that was the impression given. Just wanted to say that people 'could' just vote for their friends.

Consider it dropped anyway. And yeah, if there's very little to no risk of it occurring, then polls could work quite nicely.
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How bout a realistic future? Year 4013. 400 words and three days-I need time I'm still a beginner writer. The peice can be due on the 5.
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OK - sci-fi isn't my usual bag but I will give it a go. You can go to 400 for me that is too long with a family and other writing that needs doing.

I'll post what I wrote based on the generator in about an hour it is mostly written and needs editing. Using a story generator for a challenge might be fun it is always fun to see how different stories come out of one basic idea.
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Whats a story generator?

I'm going to begining writing and post my peice as soon as its finished.
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Seventh Sanctum is the largest collector of plot generators - I think. It has a lot of prompts of varying kinds to get a story started. My horror novella/epistolary and my urban fantasy series started out as a prompt from the site. Another urban fantasy and a junior fiction sci-fi also appeared but I have only ever written a short story for one and a prologue for the other.

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I haven't edited it as I am using something else but this is what I came up with from the generator prompt I posted above.

Tuffet's Away.
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Should'nt there be some sort of human sacrifice involved? Stakes that high would bring out the best work from the participants. It just seems like assigning points is so ho hum, but a WB sacrifical altar sounds excellent. Drums beating under a full moon, the wb natives dancing and chanting, the "lamb" taken to the altar as the high priest or priestess brings the event to a crescendo by plunging an Albright Standard Quill with brass tip through the heart of the loser.

Later we could hold a bake sale and have punch. It's just a thought.
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I vote for the sacrifice.

I think you could actually do this in two fields of writing: humor and porn.
Those are the only two genres that generate (or don't) observable physical reactions from readers.
They either laugh or they don't. They either get hard/wet or they don't.

Anything else is just an election.
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I finished my story still need to edit it. It 346 words and my first attempt at second person. Who should start the thread and the poll? Probably not one of the contestants.
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Wait for a moderator view - but we could put it in the fiction section and the poll in Writer's Cafe.
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The poll and the story's should be in the same thread. Then its less likely for someone not to read the story's and just vote.

Alright i'm finished with my story, editing and all, i didn't realize i would be done so quick. Second person was easier than I thought but doesn't make for an interesting story. I'm ready for voting.

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Here is my story: http://www.writersbeat.com/showthrea...168#post558168

Can someone please get the poll up?
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Don't do yourself down - my piece is outside of my comfort zone being sci-fi and it shows. I am nearly done it needs a read through.
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