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Old 09-29-2015, 01:19 AM
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Hi,
I've always been uncomfortable with nicknames, pseudos and other avatars. As a writer I am very proud of what I do and I see no reason not to sign everything with my proper name.
Only one reason maybe: my name is Haertjens and I have decided to focus on the American market. Though I know there is about 250 Haertjens living in the US, it is not a popular name and it might be a name that will not 'stick' if I ever get published.
So I'm thinking about 'Americanizing' my name to Marc Arsons.
What do you think, could this prove useful?

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Arsons has kind of a negative connotation, I think.

But really, why wouldn't Haertjens stick as opposed to something more commonplace? Could it be that the opposite is true?
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Hi Marc.

Publishing, Agents, and Hollywood change people's names all the time. HW is the worst offender.

I know why they do it, and it has to do with human memory. They want the name easy to remember. I think they call this 'branding'.

Using a pen name causes some problems in getting paid but they can be overcome.

I think there's another Arsons writing spy novels. But sometimes my memory plays tricks on me.

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Originally Posted by Binx B View Post
Arsons has kind of a negative connotation,
I know, and kind of like it. It's not as bad as 'arsonist', is it?
I thought of giving it a double s 'Arsson', but that is an existing Scandinavian name. And people might start splitting the word in two, that would make it stick though :-)
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I think there's another Arsons writing spy novels.
I just found one Marc Arson (because the gmail-account marc.arson@gmail.com was already taken), but I don't know if he's a writer. I'll check, thanks.
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I know why they do it, and it has to do with human memory. They want the name easy to remember. I think they call this 'branding'.
There's brand and there's branding.

Brand is how you are perceived by customers or potential customers. A brand is built.

Branding is the strategic process of formulating what you want your brand to be. So you're right about that.

But the name isn't necessarily significant in building a brand, unless it's just way off or potentially negative.

I doubt it would be much different for authors. Look at Haruki Murakami. I think he's done quite well with a name that most Americans would have trouble remembering. His brand is built around the name, based on how people perceive his product, which is great writing.
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i think your real name is way more memorable than Arsons. Keep it if you're proud of your writing, why not?
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How about Arthur Z. Wrighterman?
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Actually, I think the opposite is true for the literary market (I think) you're going for -- American audiences will love reading well written literature from a "foreigner".

That said, I do think a nom de plume is useful. I just signed a contract to publish an erotic story with another name. I'm not ashamed of the erotica, but I do have other aspirations for my real name which I've been building a brand with for the past 3 years. But those other aspirations could be easily tainted (unfortunately) by my name being associated with porn.
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I think a unique name like your own is memorable and a good thing, and nobody in America cares about anti-foreign stuff anymore too much. I use Chris Dean because I write with a female POV sometimes and I've had editors get turned off (so I assume some readers would too) when I write as a woman. By the way, it disturbs me that editors that reject and also some that accept my stories sometimes call me by my pen name in emails. I've always gotten my money so I guess it's no big deal, but it seems weird.
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you should be

Marc Heiro

the .com is open

MarcHeiro.com

Now Cheiro was a famous author and psychic in the early 20th century.

His book Cheiro's World Predictions published in 1920's gave exact details of WW1, how the United States would win due to air power and he even nailed the abdication of the Brit King years before it happened.

So Marc Heiro

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you should be

Marc Heiro

the .com is open

MarcHeiro.com

Now Cheiro was a famous author and psychic in the early 20th century.

His book Cheiro's World Predictions published in 1920's gave exact details of WW1, how the United States would win due to air power and he even nailed the abdication of the Brit King years before it happened.

So Marc Heiro

As long as you got the .com you should be able to get the youtube, google plus, twitter and facebook too
Is there any place where they lock up people like you secure enough? Guantanamo?
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I think Adoni is gone... Maybe Gitmo.

Your real name is unique and memorable. Maybe it's hard to spell, but with autocorrect, I think it'll be fine.
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I hope Adoni sticks around. Should the IT come back, he'd be perfect for it.

As long as he could take a little ribbing.
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Sometimes nom de plumes are a necessary evil.

I mentioned a while ago I write non-fiction. I have quite a few books in science.

Now I think my non-fiction readers would spit their coffee out if they happened to stumble across some of the stuff I've done in other fields of the artistic world if I worked under my surname [which isn't common in the slightest]. I do, after all, paint or photograph some... err... rather "interesting" scenes occasionally. And um have a rather thought invoking blog. And occasionally ah work [photography, artwork for their albums] with a band that I met years ago when living in Europe whose lyrics are considered more than a few times controversial. Mum blames my godfather, dad's long-time close friend [and distinct relative], as a bad influence for this cause his own work in the artistic world will never be called conservative even if you showed him the definition of conservative in every language he speaks. The irony that her own brother worked with godfather before mum & dad got married - and that dad himself tackles controversial topics in his own books head on - is still, to this day, lost on her.

I have also published in another non-fiction subject that is rather controversial and would raise more than a few eyebrows and get a couple wtf comments if I worked under the same surname and readers read the different topics.



Marc I'll suggest use your real name. If you get an agent see if they suggest a non de plume.

Some may just do that because Haertjens is not a common name outside of the Netherlands / Belgian region. The memorability factor [and yes it exists] as well as stigma with respect to Arsons [people see what they want to see, so you're not calling yourself an arsonist some will still "see" it] may not make your name sellable.

Take it from someone whose surname is likewise not common in the US. People continually use the Americanized versions for my surname - causes a little confusion as that version is known for everything but writing. My cousin, a poet, has had people say to him "but I thought you played hockey" because misspell the surname and his name is exactly that of a known hockey player.
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