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Old 02-17-2013, 10:37 AM
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I've been good

I've been bad

the good I've been
at one time
would be seen as bad
at another time

the bad I've been
at other times
was called being good

what is the same through all those times
is that I have been

I know now good or bad are not actual truths

being is truth


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lovely but last stanza is the beautiful implicit running throughout your words.

why does that last stanza exist?

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Old 02-17-2013, 02:58 PM
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why does that last stanza exist?
Does it require a reason to exist?
Would you like to propose one?
Will it exist if you choose not to?
Does it exist simply because it is?
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Old 02-18-2013, 02:01 AM
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Agree with Laura. 'Being is truth' is the great ending. Truth is already; otherwise, we seek it in vain.
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Truth is I enjoy being in agreement with you two far more than I could ever enjoy defending the former last stanza.
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I like your ending.

If I can only make one suggestion, I wouldn't have ended it so firmly.

Instead of being is truth

You can write

" is being truth? "

That way, it takes on a more mysterious tone.

This whole idea that we don't have all the answers...

But I like it just as you have written it.
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Originally Posted by Nick Pierce View Post
I've been good

I've been bad

the good I've been
at one time
would be seen as bad
at another time.

the bad I've been
at other times
was called being good

what is the same through all those times
is that I have been

I know now good or bad are not actual truths

being is truth

yes,
truth simply is

awriter920, does this ending create a less 'firmly' feel for ya? ?
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Old 02-18-2013, 04:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Nick Pierce View Post
I've been good

I've been bad

the good I've been
at one time
would be seen as bad
at another time.

the bad I've been
at other times
was called being good

what is the same through all those times
is that I have been

I know now good or bad are not actual truths

is being truth

Or perhaps this is what you had in mind.
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I'm not sure which of the two I like more. I'm thinking the last one works best.
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Old 02-19-2013, 04:56 AM
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I'm not sure which of the two I like more. I'm thinking the last one works best.
Hiya, King
You say 'two'. Actually there are three. The first was modified to incorporate Laura and Kirk's suggestion. The second is, in truth, the original form. The last, the one that works best for you, is awriter920's thought put to page.

And I thank you for your reading and response regarding the piece.
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You can’t handle the truth


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I'm generally not into poetry, but I liked this piece. It says to me that we shouldn't waste time thinking about whether what we've done in life is good or bad, that we should just go on and do as well as we can. Thanks for sharing Nick.
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Originally Posted by Nick Pierce View Post
Does it require a reason to exist?
Would you like to propose one?
Will it exist if you choose not to?
Does it exist simply because it is?
iF a baby starts to want something, it starts being a baby.

I think everything wants something, and it does so for a reason.

Nature is unnatural to inherently smarter people.

I think nothing just is. It has to be nurtured if it is talent. It has to have a purpose if it is a person. It has to stay alive if it is love. It has to die if it is stricken with cancer.

It exists as inspiration if you choose not to like something. But on this site, I can do something about not liking the way something is proposed/arranged/illustrated.

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Old 02-24-2013, 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by maidahl View Post
"awriter920, does this ending create a less 'firmly' feel for ya? ?"@Nick: You are so humble. May you get all the reviews this site can produce and more.
These (poems, opinions, etc.) are words on a website. Ain't nobody takin' a 3D poke at me.
Bein' accommodatin'- bein' agreeable- hell, I'm grateful for the chance to be a nice guy.

For real world humility in action I suggest reading "Keep the River on Your Right" and "Where the Spirits Dwell" by Tobias Schneebaum.
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awriter920, does this ending create a less 'firmly' feel for ya?
Yes. To me, good poetry is one of two things

a. makes you laugh

b. gets you to think

If it's just an assertion of reality, idk, it doesn't do much for me.

That said, you already got me thinking when u say

I've been good

I've been bad

the good I've been
at one time
would be seen as bad
at another time.

the bad I've been
at other times
was called being good
so I think "the truth simply is" is a fine ending.
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Nice poem Pierce

"Well, dog my cats!" says Baba Fats. "Another burned out soul, Who's lookin' for an alchemist to turn his trip to gold. It isn't in a dealer's stash, or on a druggist's shelf... Son, if you would find the perfect high, find it in yourself."

("Why, you jive mother-fucker!" says Roy, "I climbed through rain and sleet,
I froze three fingers off my hands, and four toes off my feet! I braved the lair of the polar bear, I've tasted the maggot's kiss. Now, you tell me the high is in myself? What kinda shit is this?

My ears, before they froze off," says Roy, "had heard all kindsa crap; But I didn't climb for fourteen years to hear your sophomore rap. And I didn't climb up here to hear that the high is on the natch, So you tell me where the real stuff is, or I'll kill your guru ass!"

"Okay...okay," says Baba Fats, "You're forcin' it outta me... There is a land beyond the sun that's known as Zabolee. A wretched land of stone and sand, where snakes and buzzards scream, And in this devil's garden blooms the mystic Tzutzu tree.

Now, once every ten years it blooms one flower, as white as the Key West sky,
And he who eats of the Tzutzu flower shall know the perfect high. For the rush comes on like a tidal wave...hits like the blazin' sun. And the high? It lasts forever, and the down don't never come.

But, Zabolee Land is ruled by a giant, who stands twelve cubits high, And with eyes of red in his hundred heads, he awaits the passer-by. And you must slay the red-eyed giant, and swim the river of slime, Where the mucous beasts await to feast on those who journey by. And if you slay the giant and beasts, and swim the slimy sea, There's a blood-drinking witch who sharpens her teeth as she guards the Tzutzu tree."

"Well, to hell with your witches and giants," says Roy, "To hell with the beasts of the sea--
Why, as long as the Tzutzu flower still blooms, hope still blooms for me."
And with tears of joy in his sun-blind eyes, he slips the guru a five, And crawls back down the mountainside, pursuing the perfect high.

"Well, that is that," says Baba Fats, sitting back down on his stone, Facing another thousand years of talking to God, alone. "Yes, Lord, it's always the same...old men or bright-eyed youth... It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to tell them the truth."

- Shel Silverstein)
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Freakin' Shel-
that fella stuck his head out his Sausalito boat window one day (as I was canoeing by) and said "Hey, do you want a collapsible kayak?"

He was alright. The kayak was cool too.
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^just beautiful.
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Now what is the use of reposting this?

Really, one only reads a Robert Frost poem once, right?
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