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Old 02-12-2014, 04:54 PM
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I've heard if you want to get published by a brick-and-mortar publisher, it's best to get an editor, and it has to be a good one. It was said that you can get one for 400.00, but that's a second rate editor. 800.00 to 2000.00 for a good one.

I can't even afford a second-rate one, and I'm really trying not to have to pay up front, and I definitely don't want to pay for vanity press, which is around the same amount to pay for an editor, roughly. So do you need an editor for an eBook self-pub? I couldn't say whether I would make the money back, and I've worked hard on my story so I don't really want to feel I'm in the hole with it, it would be depressing.

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Old 02-12-2014, 04:56 PM
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Oh and I know it costs money to get on Kindle, etc. but it looked like the price ranged between 100.00 and 250.00, which I can afford.
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Why can't you edit the book yourself?

Kindle ebook publishing is free at amazon, except for the cover which you do yourself or hire someone to do it.

Createspace costs money to do a print book.

Do an ebook first, then if it sells, you can do a hardcopy at Createspace and add it to the books purchase choices.
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Originally Posted by lisahauer09 View Post
I've heard if you want to get published by a brick-and-mortar publisher, it's best to get an editor, and it has to be a good one.
Just to be clear, are you talking about submitting work to trade publishers? If so, that advice is a bit dodgy. A reputable publisher will edit your book as part of the deal.

If you are intending to self publish however, it might be worth investing in the services of an editor.
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Originally Posted by flyingtart View Post
Just to be clear, are you talking about submitting work to trade publishers? If so, that advice is a bit dodgy. A reputable publisher will edit your book as part of the deal.

If you are intending to self publish however, it might be worth investing in the services of an editor.
^ very much so. I wouldn't self-pub without an editor, but I'd leave a professional edit to the in-house editor, if I'm going with a publishing company.
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Having said that, your book needs to be polished until it shines before an agent/publishing company sees it.

Editors needn't cost a lot. It depends what you want. Find another writer in the same boat as you, offer to do an exchange beta-read. You catch their mistakes, they catch yours, everybody wins.

No matter how good your own proofing is, you'll miss something. The first short I wrote for reasonable money I proof-read a dozen times. Word by word. My spag is, I think, well above average. The editor found 3 typos. You can be too close to, and too familiar with, your own work to see the wood for the trees.
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No matter how good your own proofing is, you'll miss something.
Oh, yes . . . yes, you can. And will. I'm surprised how many "head smacking" moments I had when my own went through the project I'd read through at least a dozen (or more!) times. Lol. It's always good to have a second (fresh) pair of (experienced) eyes to comb through another's work.
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Originally Posted by lisahauer09 View Post
I've heard if you want to get published by a brick-and-mortar publisher, it's best to get an editor, and it has to be a good one.
That would defeat the purpose of a brick-and-mortar publishing deal. Part of it IS that they edit for you, design a cover, format, promo (to some extent), etc. Or should, anyway.

So do you need an editor for an eBook self-pub?
This is a separate question. The answer is most emphatically YES. Doesn't matter how much you pay for the edit, whether it's $200 or $2,000. If you're going to ask people to pay for your book, you need to make sure they get their money's worth. Period. No ifs, ands, or buts. Even the best writers miss stuff. I know editors-turned-writers who miss stuff. There's no getting around it, you need a second pair of eyes. Think of it as an investment You're better off spending the money on a proper edit than ads and promo. And with a properly edited book, you're more likely to make money off it through satisfied readers.
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That would defeat the purpose of a brick-and-mortar publishing deal.
Yes and no. If the book reads as half-finished, has plot holes, whatever, it may never get as far as that publishing deal.
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Yes and no. If the book reads as half-finished, has plot holes, whatever, it may never get as far as that publishing deal.
In that case I would go with beta readers or critique partners. Several sets of eyes looking at the same thing might help.
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Originally Posted by Whisper View Post
In that case I would go with beta readers or critique partners. Several sets of eyes looking at the same thing might help.
This sounds more sensible.

And on the subject of professional edits, be very careful who you choose if you go this way because there are different kinds of editor and frankly not every self-proclaimed editor is qualified to do the job.

Here's an article about this you might find interesting.
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It's a good article, flyingtart. I'd even take it one step further and say make sure that the editor you choose has edited within your genre. Most specialise and will work within their own specialist areas.
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