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Originally Posted by daes13 View Post
Thanks to Mohican for making the Rules and Guidelines thread foremost:

" Too much of anything is never good. When posting, instead of making multiple posts, use the 'edit' button when you have something to add before someone else replies. We want to encourage discussions, not a monologue or soliloquy. Last time we checked, Writer's Beat was not a Shakespeare play. So if you want to plot world domination, please do it somewhere else."

Just gonna leave this here hehehe

Daes: Thank you. Like ending word count restrictions, perhaps this rule can be suspended until further notice.

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Can we eliminate word count limitations? Just have it so the poster warns how long it is?
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Originally Posted by E. Zamora View Post
So many people conflate nationalized or single payer healthcare with true socialism and failed economies like Venezuela.

Venezuela takes over oil industry and other multinational corporations: Socialism. Failed system.

Canada, European, Scandinavian countries etc. etc. with single payer systems in place for decades: MARKET, capitalist economies. NOT socialism...

Ernie: you make valid points. And that isn't the smartest meme in the world.


Of course, Venezuela's government control of industries outside of the oil industry hasn't helped, either.



If we turn to single payer healthcare, (to go with our socialized retirement system) then of course our government would have socialistic aspects.



In a related note, I don't view "capitalism" as a system that functions in a vacuum outside of government. How we practice capitalism has some similarities to socialism.
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Originally Posted by Mohican View Post

brianpatrick wrote: Okay, I’m not responding with a “valid” counterpoint because these are just fear mongering articles from tabloid outlets. They might be funny, but they’re not true, and for someone who is not very bright or discerning, dangerous.

Are they fear mongering? Perhaps?


A quick google search leads to sites outside of breitbart, dailymail, thesunuk



This site asserts that there are on average 430 crimes involving the use of mopeds per week in London. Perhaps David Videcette is a fear monger, too: https://davidvidecette.com/blog/2018...-enabled-crime


So there are more than "tabloid sites" that are reporting on this.



You're response to this is akin to when you referred to Alice Teller as a Nazi or a white supremacist.



So it's an issue. Perhaps, not living in London, or in the UK I should just ignore it, but it is an issue, and because it is a growing issue perhaps a discussion of the root causes would be in order.
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Originally Posted by Mohican View Post
Are they fear mongering? Perhaps?


A quick google search leads to sites outside of breitbart, dailymail, thesunuk



This site asserts that there are on average 430 crimes involving the use of mopeds per week in London. Perhaps David Videcette is a fear monger, too: https://davidvidecette.com/blog/2018...-enabled-crime


So there are more than "tabloid sites" that are reporting on this.



You're response to this is akin to when you referred to Alice Teller as a Nazi or a white supremacist.



So it's an issue. Perhaps, not living in London, or in the UK I should just ignore it, but it is an issue, and because it is a growing issue perhaps a discussion of the root causes would be in order.


Well, Alice Teller is not a “Nazi,” but she is a secessionist, and denies that it is harder for black people to get a fair shake in the US and elsewhere. But it is harder. Some of it is institutional racism—not the blatant, “I hate niggers” kind, but a cultural bias perpetuated in part by a misunderstanding of our history in this country. No, I don’t think I can be held responsible for slavery. Yes, I think the black community needs to step up and take responsibility for some of its problems, but I also think we (white america) have done much to gut traditional black communities of their economic and socially-mobile options for decades (after the civil rights act.) somehow there is this idea in the “there is no such thing as white privilege” movement that white America has not thrown up road blocks to black Americans wrt gaining access to a better life. We have. We really really have. They also seem to lean toward “blacks are inherently more violent or criminal than whites.” But that’s not true either. When the Irish and the Italians grew up in ghettos on the east coast they were also violent and criminal. Then once we needed them as soldiers to win WWII, and they came back with GI bill college opportunities and social mobility, they suddenly became “good Americans.” We forgot about the rampant crime and mayhem perpetrated by their groups because they were given opportunity.

All humans, given opportunity and an even playing field will rise to the occasion. Nobody wants to be poor or a criminal. There is actually only one race of humans on the planet now, and we are pretty much all the same on the inside. Sure, there will always be people who choose to do nothing and live off the system the easy way, but that way is not really easy either. There are ten times more white people on welfare than there are any others. And we could get rid of welfare all together, but I’d rather give a few bucks a month to lazy people than have them desperate, out on the street, and looking to mug my wife for her cell phone. We might trace the recent uptick in moped crimes to Englands cuts in welfare payments and the recession in the US which affected the whole world. Seems a likely candidate. And who else better to be perpetrators than young immigrant men living in London ghettos? This assumption might imply that middle eastern immigrants are more violent or criminal than traditional white natives of England, but I think if you tanked the British economy and unemployment went to 20% you’d see that white people are just as violent and criminal as anyone else.

So, Alice Teller is not a nazi, but she has an agenda which is in conflict with reality. Ann Coulter too. And to complicate things, they make a living selling books with a political bent, so that is their primary motivation.

I don’t actually care about your political or religious beliefs Mo, and I never try to attack you PERSONALLY. The last time I was banned I think you overreacted. I’m not saying I blame you; I can be difficult.

I want you to speak for yourself. I want to know your humanity. I hate internet memes. In fact, the internet is not a great place to get objective information and hasn’t been since the early 90’s. So I don’t believe any of it, wholly. When I bust your balls about a post I am trying to get you to defend yourself like a man, not attack you personally. If you were my neighbor we would be friends. Look, Proddy has ideas I disagree with, but when I hit him up or disagree, he defends himself like an intelligent man.
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Originally Posted by daes13 View Post
Can we eliminate word count limitations? Just have it so the poster warns how long it is?

The Word Count restricton , especially in Members only has been lifted http://www.writersbeat.com/showthread.php?t=57666
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Brian, when your replies are not accurate, and you make constant digs and comments that are false, and then fall back on "I was joking" etc it takes any incentive to discuss things on a deep basis. Also, deep, deep dives are based on trust, there are few people I trust like that IRL, and fewer yet that on the internet.



When you make claims that the output of the sun never changes, but that atmospheric conditions on the earth change, then I cant take your seriously in a discussion on things scientific. Instead of showing you places that disagree with me on "climate change" that do agree with this point, I should have taken the time to ask you a question or series of questions.


How does the sun generate its power/heat/light?
Answer - Nuclear Fusion, turning Hydrogen into Helium.



Are there any controls on this process?

Answer - controls based on it's mass, which loosely control the fusion. It's not regulated in the sense that man made nuclear reactors are controlled - so there are variations in output - which means more or less light or heat.



Then we could discuss sunspot activity, and the sun's 11 year cycle....


If you want a thoughtful response, then you yourself have to put the effort into thoughtful responses.
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Originally Posted by Mohican View Post
Brian, when your replies are not accurate, and you make constant digs and comments that are false, and then fall back on "I was joking" etc it takes any incentive to discuss things on a deep basis. Also, deep, deep dives are based on trust, there are few people I trust like that IRL, and fewer yet that on the internet.



When you make claims that the output of the sun never changes, but that atmospheric conditions on the earth change, then I cant take your seriously in a discussion on things scientific. Instead of showing you places that disagree with me on "climate change" that do agree with this point, I should have taken the time to ask you a question or series of questions.


How does the sun generate its power/heat/light?
Answer - Nuclear Fusion, turning Hydrogen into Helium.



Are there any controls on this process?

Answer - controls based on it's mass, which loosely control the fusion. It's not regulated in the sense that man made nuclear reactors are controlled - so there are variations in output - which means more or less light or heat.



Then we could discuss sunspot activity, and the sun's 11 year cycle....


If you want a thoughtful response, then you yourself have to put the effort into thoughtful responses.


None of what you say about the sun and how it generates it’s power, the 11yr cycle, variations in output, or any of the rest make any sense scientifically.

It’s no longer a debatable concept. I don’t need to quote articles from scientists because all of them agree (short a few who have financial reasons for doing so.)

Even if all the status quo proponents are right with their talking points it doesn’t matter. Mans activity increases warming on top of any natural phenomenon, and at this point it may or may not be reversible.

I agree with your first instinct which was ‘not’ to ask me questions, but I will continue to press you and anyone else to express what they REALLY believe, and not to couch their opinions and beliefs in useless questions and diversionary expressions. These are the heart of memes and social media outlets and allow less than intelligent people to control a narrative which they have no right/ability being involved in. Not saying you are less than intelligent personally, just that you sometimes use memes and snarks, etc (maybe just for fun or expediency.)

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