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Wow, it's been years since I re-visited this time in my life...

I was diagnosed with schizophrenia in 2010 and had a relapse in 2015, when I wrote these "proverbs." When I have an episode, I think I'm the reincarnation of Jesus Christ here for the second coming.

I'm also an agnostic and a disbeliever in Christianity, although the character of Jesus Christ is my hero and everything I aspire to be in a man.

Yahweh, I couldn't care much for.

I mean, why did he not just not create Lucifer and solve the whole problem. He's all-knowing and all-loving, right? The logical thing to do would be to short-circuit the fall by refusing to create Satan in the first place.

Yes, I claim to be smarter than the Christian god.

But if would take away Satan's free will, right?

But Yahweh's responsible for the conception of children, isn't he? So why didn't he conceive my son with my ex? Did he take away my unborn child's free will?

By not creating someone, is it taking away their free will?

I would argue not.

And by Yahweh refusing to create Satan, wouldn't he prove his all-loving nature?

After all, then humankind wouldn't have fallen into sin, correct?

Anyway...

Back to my story...

I wrote these "proverbs" when I was having a schizophrenic episode.

Oh! And one more thing...

When I'm delusional, I ... wait...

Have you ever seen the movie The Truman Show?

That's my delusional reality when I stop taking my meds...

I believe the government has satelittes in space with high-tech cameras that film my every move ... zoom, x-ray, you name it.

My life since I turned 16 has been recorded and broadcasted to the world.

Why?

What's the reason such a terrible fate would befall a man.

You don't want to know ... and I'm not going to tell you.

Yes. Schizophrenia ... it's a strange disease.

But what I'm really wondering since re-reading these "Proverbs" is what did you think about them? And what do you think about them now that you know they were created by someone who suffers from a mental illness?

I await your replies...
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Old 11-20-2017, 09:14 PM
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In my sane, "medicated" mind, I think 95% of it is still true.

Opinions?

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(the goblin liked Logos, remembering him from way back, before building up to the words "...no, the question is never whether something is actually true or false, it's how one then lives with that supposition about the supposed truth therein, for example I am anonymous here, even if I suspect that the highest levels know who I am though, but even so I post on anonymously still, for merely that is my stance then, simply I wish to be anonymous even if my anonymity doesn't result from my wishes now...", and besides that the goblin also felt that forumland was a chance to encourage one's alter ego to show through the fiction one portrayed here, he cocked his head to one side, asking "...if this is virtual reality here than how can any of this be true now, no everything you and I relate has to be believe in only, belief means one doesn't know thus posts are mere fictional portrayals of something quite unprovable between us now, and out of respect to that understanding, I remain anonymous still, just we, for all our given details about ourselves remain anonymous throughout, me I'm fiction then, as being mere believable words upon your screen of myself...")

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So are you saying that something like gravity is a mere belief and not an established objective fact?
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"...nope, I don't know about gravity, that's an unseen part of reality being part of your dailylife, it belongs to dailylife being part of reality, instead what I do know that here is one's virtual reality, and what is another name for a virtual reality, perhaps we could call it "fiction" now, thus you and I are just fictional characters, as it's not a reality between us, no it's words upon your screen, where words are just representations..." replied the goblin who could relate any fact about himself, as truthfully as possible too, but still those humans from his experience would doubt him still, adding "...turn it around though, note how you can't prove what you've related to me, not that I have any reason to doubt you now, it's just that I don't know for sure..."

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Originally Posted by Logos View Post
Wow, it's been years since I re-visited this time in my life...

I was diagnosed with schizophrenia in 2010 and had a relapse in 2015, when I wrote these "proverbs." When I have an episode, I think I'm the reincarnation of Jesus Christ here for the second coming.

I'm also an agnostic and a disbeliever in Christianity, although the character of Jesus Christ is my hero and everything I aspire to be in a man.

Yahweh, I couldn't care much for.

I mean, why did he not just not create Lucifer and solve the whole problem. He's all-knowing and all-loving, right? The logical thing to do would be to short-circuit the fall by refusing to create Satan in the first place.

Yes, I claim to be smarter than the Christian god.

But if would take away Satan's free will, right?

But Yahweh's responsible for the conception of children, isn't he? So why didn't he conceive my son with my ex? Did he take away my unborn child's free will?

By not creating someone, is it taking away their free will?

I would argue not.

And by Yahweh refusing to create Satan, wouldn't he prove his all-loving nature?

After all, then humankind wouldn't have fallen into sin, correct?

Anyway...

Back to my story...

I wrote these "proverbs" when I was having a schizophrenic episode.

Oh! And one more thing...

When I'm delusional, I ... wait...

Have you ever seen the movie The Truman Show?

That's my delusional reality when I stop taking my meds...

I believe the government has satelittes in space with high-tech cameras that film my every move ... zoom, x-ray, you name it.

My life since I turned 16 has been recorded and broadcasted to the world.

Why?

What's the reason such a terrible fate would befall a man.

You don't want to know ... and I'm not going to tell you.

Yes. Schizophrenia ... it's a strange disease.

But what I'm really wondering since re-reading these "Proverbs" is what did you think about them? And what do you think about them now that you know they were created by someone who suffers from a mental illness?

I await your replies...


Fantastic story!

Schizophrenic, yeah, WTF?!

The proverbs are mostly true, like you said. But, so what? Most are obvious. A few are not true, and a few more are kooky and indecipherable (my comments are from memory, and I have a good one, as I can no longer see but the final 15% of your original post).

I’d much rather read a story about your fun with schizophrenia. You’re obviously intelligent and can write some. Let’s have some of that.




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("...btw it's not called schizophrenia on forumland here..." related the goblin explaining "...no I think that in most trolls circles its called "handles" or "sockpuppets", which together with "hamming" "spamming" and "hijacking" form an integral part that behaviour that we have come to know and love from them, anyway for more information on this matter please feel a liberty to ask brianpatrick there to show you how its done, if you haven't noted already that is...")
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Originally Posted by fleamailman View Post
("...btw it's not called schizophrenia on forumland here..." related the goblin explaining "...no I think that in most trolls circles its called "handles" or "sockpuppets", which together with "hamming" "spamming" and "hijacking" form an integral part that behaviour that we have come to know and love from them, anyway for more information on this matter please feel a liberty to ask brianpatrick there to show you how its done, if you haven't noted already that is...")


You not believe Logos has schizophrenia? Hmm... I had no reason to doubt what he says about it, especially given the content of the OP and air around responses given.

I pretty much take Logos at face value. I don’t need proverbs of any stripe so the OP (while mostly truisms) wasn’t helpful to me. I may be irreverent, but I’m not dismissive. I sincerely think the story here is the breadth of a life lived with a mental illness. I’m guessing it’s a fantastic story. Although, I’m also aware that to reduce ones writing life to a single disability/circumstance could become a tight rabbit hole.


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Added some more.
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He also had lots of wives...

Wonder if he could get anal?
Only from his last wife.
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Added some more.


Why?
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Why?
Why not?
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Originally Posted by Logos View Post
Why not?
He's politely trying to say that you don't take criticism well, so there's no point in posting anything if it's beyond criticism.
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Why not?


You stated you only turn into this character when you have a schizophrenic break. I was curious if you maybe stopped taking your meds and were experiencing this event now.

Is still think the story here is not the one you’re telling.
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spshane:

No, I handle criticism quite well.

brianpatrick:

Nope, I've been taking my meds religiously for 3 years now. But I still enjoy writing little aphorisms -- just not religious in nature, as I'm an agnostic when I'm not delusional.

What story am I telling, and why do you not think it's the truth?
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Originally Posted by Logos View Post
spshane:

No, I handle criticism quite well.

brianpatrick:

Nope, I've been taking my meds religiously for 3 years now. But I still enjoy writing little aphorisms -- just not religious in nature, as I'm an agnostic when I'm not delusional.

What story am I telling, and why do you not think it's the truth?


Oh no, I believe you are telling the truth. I just think a better story here is a schizophrenic who goes off his meds and becomes a Jesus like figure that writes proverbs. Fiction or non-fiction, I think you could tell a good story with that topic.

I mean, the proverbs have some value, but nothing like a great story would.
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Oh no, I believe you are telling the truth. I just think a better story here is a schizophrenic who goes off his meds and becomes a Jesus like figure that writes proverbs. Fiction or non-fiction, I think you could tell a good story with that topic.
What would you find interesting about a story like this, because I don't see it having much of a market?
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What would you find interesting about a story like this, because I don't see it having much of a market?


The topic is just a jumping off point. You then have to write a good story.

To write a good story it helps to have inside information, or detailed knowledge on the topic. I presume you have that? I presume you know things about the life of a schizophrenic that most people don’t.

You also can write, and seem to have a sense of humor about the whole thing.

I don’t know about “markets”. That’s not my gig. Doesn’t seem to be much of a market for many books these days, outside of erotica. I suppose you could include some schizophrenic erotica. That might be funny—or not.
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@brianpatrick,

Do you think that doing the right thing at the right time is the hallmark of wisdom?

That's what Wallace Wattles claims.
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Do you think that doing the right thing at the right time is the hallmark of wisdom?

That's what Wallace Wattles claims.
I ain't no brianpatrick, but I think doing the right thing at the right time is a function of luck, more than wisdom.

To know that what you are doing is not only the right thing at the time, but will continue to have been the right thing into the future requires prescience, which we know no one, not even the wisest person, has.

Or,we can never know that what we are doing is the right thing at the right time, because the truth of it can only be seen in hindsight, which we don't have access to until after the fact.

So, it's luck. Pure luck. But it can make you look smart.
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@brianpatrick,

Do you think that doing the right thing at the right time is the hallmark of wisdom?

That's what Wallace Wattles claims.


Wallace Wattles? Hmm... I don’t put too much stock in a Christian. Not just because he’s a Christian, but because it seems like his actions were power seeking, and his “new thought” / socialist leanings seem to me disingenuous, and secretly “power hungry.” Much like Benner’s The Impersonal Life, it sounds good at first, but eventually turns to legislation to “enforce” its mandates. Benner never says this in his book, but he knows what he’s doing, where he’s going. Clever dude... but, obviously seeking big attention.

To answer your question, though... nope. Like Steve said, you can’t be sure what your actions will bring except in retrospect. Yeah, you can be “wise” and/or “intelligent”, and this may increase the odds you’ll do the right thing, but mostly it’s luck. Accidental genius. Anyone telling you otherwise is selling something.
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I ain't no brianpatrick.

Damn straight, you ain’t!
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Logos is gay. What utter nonsense. :P
Well, that's just like your opinion, man.
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Well, that's just like your opinion, man.


Yeah... you suck one dick in college and (hey man, the prison stuff doesn’t count; they don’t even consider that gay anymore).
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Yeah... you suck one dick in college and (hey man, the prison stuff doesn’t count; they don’t even consider that gay anymore).
Just because that was your experience doesn't mean it was mine. :P
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